BB ramblings from SurferMagForum
Hootski 17nov08
I was up at Pupukea Rec. Center, "working", when those guys got all nuts and paddle the monster out into onshore, rainy, 2-4 foot Haleiwa and you know what? They said they had a blast.
SO, the ball is really rolling now, the word is spreading across the coconut wireless and more people are stepping forward asking to try it in various conditions.
Soon as the waves get good, Hawaiian is gonna rip on that wooden banana, I can just tell. And, Yes, Hawaiian, the Mayor of Haleiwa, is PPK's brother. And Randy Rarick told me he will take it out in macking Sunset! His review as a world travelled shaper, former pro surfer and contest guru for 30+ years will tell us a lot.
PeterPopeKahapea 17nov08
Windy, rainy conditions persist over the Hawaiian Island chain and may continue throughout the rest of the week here. Brown water making for ugly conditions as well.
Ya know, Hawaiian weather has been known to be quite fickle. It may be another month before it gets ridden properly. Can ya'all keep a "woody" for THAT long????
oneula -16nov08
I think they said Randy was going to let David ("Hawaiian" ie PPK's brother) have first crack at it after the Hawaiian Pro. If Hawaiian rides its you just know the blue tent crew (earl/kanoa/bonga) will want to give it a go too.
Someone contacted me from New Zealand and said GMac wanted a shot at it. Anything for a challenge for that guy I guess he probably knows the cameras will be clicking too.. Gotta keep your stock price up for them free trips. Anyway that's where it stands.
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Nov 18, 2008
May 21, 2008
A crack in the armour
earinfector
posted 17 May 2008 17:05
roy - just was showing the board to mate and discovered a crack in the patu!!!doesn't look like a snap or damage to the wood, more that the resin has cracked. cracked all the way down so you can see the fibres of whatever that cloth is (what is it by the way).what's you advice oh boardmaster? let me know if you want more pics...
dunno how this happened man, promise i aint be rough with it! must have been those crankin full power bottom turns (
)i was doing... 
RoyStewart
posted 17 May 2008 17:45
In the meantime it can be botch repaired with some glass cloth and epoxy so that you can keep riding it, a strip around the base will do it but it will have to be faired in carefully so that it doesn't muck up the water flow. . . it's not a big job at all, the area to bond with the cloth will have to be well sanded though.
posted 17 May 2008 17:54
The thing is that a glass repair will still be visible but will work fine, so might as well do that for now. . . maybe I'll refin it or possibly keep it patched as a war horse not sure.
posted 17 May 2008 22:15
Earinfector I have been thinking about the fin some more and realised that the cloth is probably still intact because the knitted coton is super stretchy, so I think it's just the resin that's failed. How about just masking of the crack and applying some warmish epoxy and seing if it will run into the resin crack ? We dould then give it a go and only go for the glass patch if it looks like the resin line is opening up or leaking. If it stays tight then it's all good. Lol gone from replacing the fin to a glass patch to a few drops of resin I know what comes next I'll just say bung some wax in it and keep surfing !
earinfector
posted 21 May 2008 17:21
hi roy, your board is now waterworthy again, it'll need your caring touch as i am but a tradesman not a craftsman, i've got a lot on and chch is getting it's annual swell tomorrow and a board is for riding not polishing (that's a hell of a sheen on that base, no match for my 600 grit!).
RoyStewart
posted 21 May 2008 20:17
A Fantabulous job Earinfector, thanks very much. By the way that gloss is thanks to Father Ted, the board left my place with a 600 grit finish.
posted 17 May 2008 17:05
roy - just was showing the board to mate and discovered a crack in the patu!!!doesn't look like a snap or damage to the wood, more that the resin has cracked. cracked all the way down so you can see the fibres of whatever that cloth is (what is it by the way).what's you advice oh boardmaster? let me know if you want more pics...
dunno how this happened man, promise i aint be rough with it! must have been those crankin full power bottom turns (
)i was doing... RoyStewart
posted 17 May 2008 17:45
In the meantime it can be botch repaired with some glass cloth and epoxy so that you can keep riding it, a strip around the base will do it but it will have to be faired in carefully so that it doesn't muck up the water flow. . . it's not a big job at all, the area to bond with the cloth will have to be well sanded though.
posted 17 May 2008 17:54
The thing is that a glass repair will still be visible but will work fine, so might as well do that for now. . . maybe I'll refin it or possibly keep it patched as a war horse not sure.
posted 17 May 2008 22:15
Earinfector I have been thinking about the fin some more and realised that the cloth is probably still intact because the knitted coton is super stretchy, so I think it's just the resin that's failed. How about just masking of the crack and applying some warmish epoxy and seing if it will run into the resin crack ? We dould then give it a go and only go for the glass patch if it looks like the resin line is opening up or leaking. If it stays tight then it's all good. Lol gone from replacing the fin
to a glass patch to a few drops of resin I know what comes next I'll just say bung some wax in it and keep surfing !earinfector
posted 21 May 2008 17:21
hi roy, your board is now waterworthy again, it'll need your caring touch as i am but a tradesman not a craftsman, i've got a lot on and chch is getting it's annual swell tomorrow and a board is for riding not polishing (that's a hell of a sheen on that base, no match for my 600 grit!).
RoyStewart
posted 21 May 2008 20:17
A Fantabulous job Earinfector, thanks very much. By the way that gloss is thanks to Father Ted, the board left my place with a 600 grit finish.
Mar 17, 2008
Westport Talk
TheRealGroovn
posted 17 March 2008 17:15
heyall... just back from the weekend over the coast, sun-baked, stoked, relaxed and tired....
posted 17 March 2008 17:15heyall... just back from the weekend over the coast, sun-baked, stoked, relaxed and tired....
Well you got the highlight already - but I'll give ya the details and the additional wave count when we're all unpacked and I have time to compose my thoughts, and a few photos.
Yep, Stargirl gets the kudos for following me diligently for over an hour and a half with the lens - more on what I spent that hour and a half DOING - and just as I scratched for that steamer, the tourist struck with a horribly timed question in her direction...
My first comment out of the water was "PLEASE tell me someone got that!!"
But alas, it'll be stuck in my head forever... photos would have been gravy.
I DO have some photographic evidence of a local having a go on a very meaty wave the next day, though not quite as big it's still the heaviest on the hikoi thus far.
More soon.... It was a great weekend and a great leg on the Olo's journey to be certain.
TheRealGroovn posted 17 March 2008 18:20
HAHAHA!!! cool... yep, keerin loved the olo Roy! I pushed her into a few wee wavelets in a protected area of the beach. It was too messy and rippy and thumping to take her into the proper whitewash, but I want her to surf it before it leaves south island - probably here in some good ole chch whitewater with daddy hangin' off the back.
She just got a kick out of the thing, all grins.
a 13 foot olo that's so dialed in, even a baby can surf it.
Feb 26, 2008
the Olo in Hollow waves
Father Ted
posted 26 February 2008 22:20
For what it's worth I reckon the board will go fine in Hollow waves with the right person riding it, Truth be told you could say that about any board.
My experience with the Olo was that once you get used to it it's pretty easy to ride. It's big and you need to plan your moves a bit in advance but it's not difficult. I think Roy's right when he says it lights up in bigger surf. I thought the same thing, it was a lot like a regular mal in small waves but what would you expect really. No-one has made any claims to the contrary but I've got to agree with Roy that it starts to come in to it's own when the waves get bigger.
I'm a competent enough surfer I guess, I've been doing it for long enough and while I'm no ripper I can hold my own most days in the water. I'm not a particularly experienced barrel rider, I love em like anybody else but don't honestly get in many so on the barrel riding front I have to speculate a bit. I doubt anyone who has spent much time at North Piha when it gets a bit of size would say it was fat or slow. I surfed the Olo in waves that the majority of people on this BB would call 4-5' sets. The walls weren't DOH but not far off it and the drops were pretty solid. I was picking the lefts on the day and they were breaking fast, with the usual closeouts in amongst the rest. The thing that made it pretty easy on the day was the fact it was pretty long period swell so there was plenty of time between bigger sets to gather myself and there was a pretty good rip to use to get out the back but it was still farken grunty.
So why do I think the board might go OK with the right guy riding it...
-its long and it paddles fast, you can get in and riding nice and early. I have no doubt that the board could get into this position if someone was game to put it there. (not pipe admitedly)
-its planeshape isn't too dissimilar to a Brewer gun and I think most would say Brewer is one of the best shapers out ther for the purpose. The board below is called a Brewer Pipeliner.
- it's got a bit of weight in it but it's pretty light for a board of its length. I reckon the weight factor will help it in a bit of chop and that it would help the rider from being bounced around.
- the pin tail and that massive muther fin are going to help it hold its line.
- the rocker curve unquestionably allows the board to flow with the shape of the wave. This was illustrated pretty well to me by Merc (who used to post here a bit) I wish I could explain it like he did but I wouldn't do it justice. Having ridden the board, I know it will pull in appropriately on a steep face
-I was pretty unsure about the rails, and cant really comment as I would naturally assume that sharper would be better, however on the waves that I had it in there was never any question as to whether or not they bit in enough
posted 26 February 2008 22:20For what it's worth I reckon the board will go fine in Hollow waves with the right person riding it, Truth be told you could say that about any board.
My experience with the Olo was that once you get used to it it's pretty easy to ride. It's big and you need to plan your moves a bit in advance but it's not difficult. I think Roy's right when he says it lights up in bigger surf. I thought the same thing, it was a lot like a regular mal in small waves but what would you expect really. No-one has made any claims to the contrary but I've got to agree with Roy that it starts to come in to it's own when the waves get bigger.
I'm a competent enough surfer I guess, I've been doing it for long enough and while I'm no ripper I can hold my own most days in the water. I'm not a particularly experienced barrel rider, I love em like anybody else but don't honestly get in many so on the barrel riding front I have to speculate a bit. I doubt anyone who has spent much time at North Piha when it gets a bit of size would say it was fat or slow. I surfed the Olo in waves that the majority of people on this BB would call 4-5' sets. The walls weren't DOH but not far off it and the drops were pretty solid. I was picking the lefts on the day and they were breaking fast, with the usual closeouts in amongst the rest. The thing that made it pretty easy on the day was the fact it was pretty long period swell so there was plenty of time between bigger sets to gather myself and there was a pretty good rip to use to get out the back but it was still farken grunty.
Most people I see surfing big hollow waves aren't pulling lots of turns, their turns tend to be longer and more drawn out and if they are in the barrel they tend to be focusing on making the most of it with an exit being the end goal, ripping turns in there doesn't seem to matter so much. If its big and lumpy most guys barely turn at all if the truth be told because their trying hard to stay firmly on the board and not get bounced off. There's plenty of footage on youtube that will show you that, the footage that was posted the other day of Waimea would back it up if anyone wants to look.
I didn't follow the original debarcle on the other forums so I'm not 100% certain as to what was claimed about the board and I haven't got an agenda to push but having ridden it in grunty waves I think Roys ideas have some merit, they just need to be tested by the right person. I'm also no board designer but I've got a laymans perspective.So why do I think the board might go OK with the right guy riding it...
-its long and it paddles fast, you can get in and riding nice and early. I have no doubt that the board could get into this position if someone was game to put it there. (not pipe admitedly)
-its planeshape isn't too dissimilar to a Brewer gun and I think most would say Brewer is one of the best shapers out ther for the purpose. The board below is called a Brewer Pipeliner.
- it's got a bit of weight in it but it's pretty light for a board of its length. I reckon the weight factor will help it in a bit of chop and that it would help the rider from being bounced around.
- the pin tail and that massive muther fin are going to help it hold its line.
- the rocker curve unquestionably allows the board to flow with the shape of the wave. This was illustrated pretty well to me by Merc (who used to post here a bit) I wish I could explain it like he did but I wouldn't do it justice. Having ridden the board, I know it will pull in appropriately on a steep face
-I was pretty unsure about the rails, and cant really comment as I would naturally assume that sharper would be better, however on the waves that I had it in there was never any question as to whether or not they bit in enough
There's no question in my mind that the Olo would handle these waves Classic old Pipe as well as what is being ridden on the day it was filmed.
From what I hear abot pipe you need to adjust your line a lot while you are in the barrel and things happen very quickly when you are in there. I am certain that the board could get someone in the barrel, it would make the drop no question and I'd be absolutely shocked if a competent rider couldn't make the bottom turn. The question for me is whether it would be long and heavy enough to freight-train the warps in the wave once you are in there in a point and shoot kind of way or whether you would still need to be able to make the subtle adjustments that I hear you need on a shorter board. If you did you would need a pretty good surfer to be riding it but I guess thats the same for any person on any board at Pipe.
I'm just glad I got to take it out in something solid. I loved it, wouldn't change to riding one exclusively and you have to remember that it's a completely different style of boardriding than shortboarding but if I had it in my garage I'd ride it more than I would have ever thought before the experience and it would be in larger waves rather than the small stuff that was in the photo's. I wish I'd been able to get that Piha day photographed now, but even that only captures a moment. I'm looking forward to the Dunedin leg - or Spuds, that will let us know for sure but meanwhile the debate will continue won't it?
Would I ride it at Pipe? I don't think I'd paddle out in the sort of waves everyone visualises when they think of Pipe.
Could Darrick, Tony Moniz, Laird, Brock or any of those guys shoot tubes with it? I don't doubt it for a minute.
Feb 24, 2008
Arrived in Christchurch !
TheRealGroovn
posted 24 February 2008 14:06
"Update... well, unfortunately none of my communications to Duncan were picked up as yet - and as of about an hour ago the olo rolled into my driveway. A bummer... because I will be away part of the coming couple weeks. Would have been perfect timing for Dunners. Alas. We'll take good care of it here in Chch and work on the plans for getting it south - maybe when Phoam comes up in April? posted 24 February 2008 21:29
dmand... it occurred to me you might be meaning 5pm... May not be back from hamner by then but you coule PM me and arrange something... if not tomorrow, then we'll hook it up - but drop a line if you'd like to try and get out tomorrow while there's swell. Probably gonna head out about 6am with Duncan - either brights or scumner. Anyone keen, pm or txt.
posted 24 February 2008 14:06"Update... well, unfortunately none of my communications to Duncan were picked up as yet - and as of about an hour ago the olo rolled into my driveway. A bummer... because I will be away part of the coming couple weeks. Would have been perfect timing for Dunners. Alas. We'll take good care of it here in Chch and work on the plans for getting it south - maybe when Phoam comes up in April?
I'll have Duncan give an update - but sounds like conditions along the way were marginal at best. Still the 13 footer's been out along the west coast, as well as two lakes! 
I'm planning to get it over the coast before it leaves Chch... so chchurchians, I'll let you know when it's on and maybe we can organize a group olo celebration and bbq over the coast.
Meanwhile, any chch surfers keen to get out on her, give drop me a pm or gimme a bell.
More to come!!
posted 24 February 2008 21:29dmand... it occurred to me you might be meaning 5pm... May not be back from hamner by then but you coule PM me and arrange something... if not tomorrow, then we'll hook it up - but drop a line if you'd like to try and get out tomorrow while there's swell. Probably gonna head out about 6am with Duncan - either brights or scumner. Anyone keen, pm or txt.
Feb 16, 2008
She's made it to the South Island
RoyStewart
posted 16 February 2008 19:17
"Just found a message at surfermag from Mr Doof who can't use his travel email, anyway he made it to the South Island on Friday and went on to Greymouth. . . missing Spud and co as he didn't get my email. So that's where it's at right now"
::Message::
"Ragland yesterday (13th Feb) AM had onshore winds and low tides, and while rideable, it was just barely so, and thus we pushed on.
Tuesday therefore brings of morning dew and hot water from the ground, and shortly the time honored bit of making a fool of myself by not giving a tinkers damn what others may think and I will go for a morning paddle on the lake with the board.
Friday (15th Feb) sees us making the crossing to the south, and then on to Greymouth.
Oh, and your friends from the Northlands were unexpected delights in their calm and reserved mannor...I felt like the noisy Yank I must be talking over the early morning din of the place we met at.
Anyway, Roy, thanks for putting your trust in me and we'll see what the future brings for the board.
Duncan "/ "
posted 16 February 2008 19:17"Just found a message at surfermag from Mr Doof who can't use his travel email, anyway he made it to the South Island on Friday and went on to Greymouth. . . missing Spud and co as he didn't get my email. So that's where it's at right now"
::Message::
"Ragland yesterday (13th Feb) AM had onshore winds and low tides, and while rideable, it was just barely so, and thus we pushed on.
Tuesday therefore brings of morning dew and hot water from the ground, and shortly the time honored bit of making a fool of myself by not giving a tinkers damn what others may think and I will go for a morning paddle on the lake with the board.
Friday (15th Feb) sees us making the crossing to the south, and then on to Greymouth.
Oh, and your friends from the Northlands were unexpected delights in their calm and reserved mannor...I felt like the noisy Yank I must be talking over the early morning din of the place we met at.
Anyway, Roy, thanks for putting your trust in me and we'll see what the future brings for the board.
Duncan "/ "
Feb 12, 2008
doof has the board
from the BB
TheRealGroovn
posted 05 February 2008 16:11
ok... here's the thing... if nobody on the NI is gonna front up, I have a possible suggestion - Roy, maybe doof has already contacted you about this, if so forgive the redundancy....
posted 12 February 2008 18:59
"yeah doof has the board roy, sorry been meaning to write the exchange up for the blog
got a pic of him and hiw wife with the board to post.Met them at paihia, had a yarn over a cup of coffee.Awsome couple, they will be on there way south with it at the moment.
(hunty has also taken some photos of the 'hand over', and will send them on to me to include in this post soon I hope) EDIT 27th Feb 08, photos added below of the handover to Doof and wife.
TheRealGroovn
posted 05 February 2008 16:11ok... here's the thing... if nobody on the NI is gonna front up, I have a possible suggestion - Roy, maybe doof has already contacted you about this, if so forgive the redundancy....
I've got a friend and his wife coming from the US departing this week... he's tossed out there that he could meet up with Roy, pick up the board and convey it down here to the south island. He'll also be touring round with his wife around NZ so perhaps there'd be opportunities for people to meet the olo and surf it on its journey with him.
Just a thought / suggestion.... I'd hate to see this Hikoi stalled indefinitely or die out altogether.
hunty posted 12 February 2008 18:59"yeah doof has the board roy, sorry been meaning to write the exchange up for the blog
got a pic of him and hiw wife with the board to post.Met them at paihia, had a yarn over a cup of coffee.Awsome couple, they will be on there way south with it at the moment.
(hunty has also taken some photos of the 'hand over', and will send them on to me to include in this post soon I hope) EDIT 27th Feb 08, photos added below of the handover to Doof and wife.
Jan 1, 2008
two weeks of limbo
jabes has had the board for 19 days now, I don't believe he has surfed it yet apart from a paddle to do some fishing, his flatmate gave it a spin at some stage, but there are no words for the blog from him. The good news is that hunty will be taking over the board on the 3rd January ~ phoam
to fill the gaps and lack of content here is a catchup of messages from the surf.co message board:
Jabes posted 13 December 2007 22:38
"Yip got her safely at work so if anyone wants to come have a peruse then its at free ride in henderson and ill bring it in thru the day for people to check out it looks amazing and i cant wait to try it bit of a pain bout the tides for after work but i will ride it soon as i can yay."
Jabes posted 16 December 2007 20:47
"nah had to work all day till late its coming out with me tomo and will take the photos and do a bit of a write up a mate and i are going to crank out a tandem for a bit to"
RoyStewart posted 16 December 2007 21:51
"Jabes there's zero chance of going tandem, don't be fooled by the length the board is actually a bit of a blade and is nowhere near buoyant enough for two people, hope you have a good surf."
Father Ted posted 17 December 2007 10:26
"Go the tandem Jabes, cant wait to see if you can pull it off. I was going to try it with my wee boy but he was a bit too wary of it. (I suspicious that you may be using it as an excuse to get UC&P with someone though... cause I don't reckon the board will like it and I think you probably know it too - that tail is pretty tight.) So in the spirit of good old fashioned southern tradition -'Good on ya mate' "
RoyStewart posted 22 December 2007 20:12
"Piha has been cranking ?"
Jabes posted 22 December 2007 22:51
"west been darn near flat lately"
RoyStewart posted 23 December 2007 01:41
"West has been cranking the last few days according to the cams and reports, looked primo today and East not too shabby either , I know that you are busy, but . . .. . the chicken hath arrived !"
hunty posted 24 December 2007 11:32
"I'm going to be coming through auckland on the 4th of january guys and id like to pick the board up, do you still have it jabes?i'll pm who ever has it to exchange numbers and get in touch with them on the day.Maybe we can arrange a time for me to pick it up,but i fear the traffic will be a nightmare and make that difficult."
Adam J posted 24 December 2007 11:44
"Yeah come on Jabes, it's been a tad quiet from you since you had the board. Don't tell me one of your flatties thought it was firewood by mistake and you are trying to furiously whittle a copy from the neighbours tree before you get rumbled"
Jabes posted 25 December 2007 00:01
"yeah been too work a holic done nearly 60 hours over the last 4 days took it out tonight tho was darn near flat paddles so well tryed a tandem but not quite wide enough slow to turn and catch you need to be prepared as ted said! prob the best part of tonight was we took it thru the cave system and there was a ton of phosphorescence in there so cool paddling in pitch black with the glow from your hands and the boards wake also used it to pillage a few fish tho sadly no crays for xmas for me"
posted 25 December 2007 09:28
"nah just as the sun went down but we have a bit of a cave network and its pitch black in them once you get in there aye impressed with how it feels in the water once your riding it then its alot smaller than you would think also discovered if you get it going real fast doing the knee paddle you can stand up on it just cruising along without waves"
Beano posted 25 December 2007 12:39
"You've had it two weeks and just now taken it out for a paddle Jabes? I recon it's time to start taking it out or pass her on."
RoyStewart posted 01 January 2008 08:09
"Jabes exactly where has our board been over the last few weeks ? Just wondering."
Jabes posted 01 January 2008 09:20
"done a couple of trips to the beach sadly ive only had the time to take it out once but my flat mate took it out and totally loved it aye its had a nice polish up and its been living at my house meeting hunty i think on the 3rd either at work or here to pass on the torch so to speak"
surfscab posted 01 January 2008 12:30
"Found this on the 'NZ police' website today.
to fill the gaps and lack of content here is a catchup of messages from the surf.co message board:
Jabes posted 13 December 2007 22:38
"Yip got her safely at work so if anyone wants to come have a peruse then its at free ride in henderson and ill bring it in thru the day for people to check out it looks amazing and i cant wait to try it bit of a pain bout the tides for after work but i will ride it soon as i can yay."
Jabes posted 16 December 2007 20:47
"nah had to work all day till late its coming out with me tomo and will take the photos and do a bit of a write up a mate and i are going to crank out a tandem for a bit to"
RoyStewart posted 16 December 2007 21:51
"Jabes there's zero chance of going tandem, don't be fooled by the length the board is actually a bit of a blade and is nowhere near buoyant enough for two people, hope you have a good surf."
Father Ted posted 17 December 2007 10:26
"Go the tandem Jabes, cant wait to see if you can pull it off. I was going to try it with my wee boy but he was a bit too wary of it. (I suspicious that you may be using it as an excuse to get UC&P with someone though... cause I don't reckon the board will like it and I think you probably know it too - that tail is pretty tight.) So in the spirit of good old fashioned southern tradition -'Good on ya mate' "
RoyStewart posted 22 December 2007 20:12
"Piha has been cranking ?"
Jabes posted 22 December 2007 22:51
"west been darn near flat lately"
RoyStewart posted 23 December 2007 01:41
"West has been cranking the last few days according to the cams and reports, looked primo today and East not too shabby either , I know that you are busy, but . . .. . the chicken hath arrived !"
hunty posted 24 December 2007 11:32"I'm going to be coming through auckland on the 4th of january guys and id like to pick the board up, do you still have it jabes?i'll pm who ever has it to exchange numbers and get in touch with them on the day.Maybe we can arrange a time for me to pick it up,but i fear the traffic will be a nightmare and make that difficult."
Adam J posted 24 December 2007 11:44
"Yeah come on Jabes, it's been a tad quiet from you since you had the board. Don't tell me one of your flatties thought it was firewood by mistake and you are trying to furiously whittle a copy from the neighbours tree before you get rumbled"
Jabes posted 25 December 2007 00:01
"yeah been too work a holic done nearly 60 hours over the last 4 days
took it out tonight tho was darn near flat paddles so well tryed a tandem but not quite wide enough slow to turn and catch you need to be prepared as ted said! prob the best part of tonight was we took it thru the cave system and there was a ton of phosphorescence in there so cool paddling in pitch black with the glow from your hands and the boards wake also used it to pillage a few fish tho sadly no crays for xmas for me"posted 25 December 2007 09:28
"nah just as the sun went down but we have a bit of a cave network and its pitch black in them once you get in there aye
impressed with how it feels in the water once your riding it then its alot smaller than you would think also discovered if you get it going real fast doing the knee paddle you can stand up on it just cruising along without waves" Beano posted 25 December 2007 12:39
"You've had it two weeks and just now taken it out for a paddle Jabes? I recon it's time to start taking it out or pass her on."
RoyStewart posted 01 January 2008 08:09
"Jabes exactly where has our board been over the last few weeks ? Just wondering."
Jabes posted 01 January 2008 09:20
"done a couple of trips to the beach sadly ive only had the time to take it out once but my flat mate took it out and totally loved it aye its had a nice polish up and its been living at my house meeting hunty i think on the 3rd either at work or here to pass on the torch so to speak"
surfscab posted 01 January 2008 12:30
"Found this on the 'NZ police' website today.
PRESS RELEASE
January 1 2008
After an extensive internal enquiry into police handling of the recent
'Tuhoe protest Hikoi' we have decided in event of future protest hikoi's to employ help from the private sector in order to distance ourselves from criticism by members of the public.
Extensive Google'ing has directed us towards an individual known only as 'jabes' who has managed to successfully stop a
'13 foot of fury hikoi'
We have been impressed in following how quickly and quietly this wannabe surfer has ended what could have been a dangerous hikoi , as neither Tama Iti or Brian Tamiki are 13ft
and with 'Jabes' being a anonymous character and beyond the press's reach we believe he is the best "Man" for the job."
Dec 4, 2007
its a conversation starter
todays BB comments:
Father Ted posted 04 December 2007 22:02 "Today was fun, mate its a conversation starter, I've never had so many people talk to me about a surfboard before and its interesting how many either knew about the Hikoi already or are keen to follow it and already know quite a bit about hollow board building.
Father Ted posted 04 December 2007 22:02 "Today was fun, mate its a conversation starter, I've never had so many people talk to me about a surfboard before and its interesting how many either knew about the Hikoi already or are keen to follow it and already know quite a bit about hollow board building.
As for the surf, I got a few waves on it today and it was a bit punchier than Sunday. I was pretty cautious about the crowd and the best (by far) peak was well covered so I hung off the side a bit.
Nice to meet Marko and at least one other BB member who doesn't post much anymore but might be tempted to come back one day. Actually if he's listening and wants me too I'll happily let him know when the board next heads out.
No Photos From me today sorry, Mrs Ted gave it a good go but was also keeping an eye on 2 little future WCT surfers.
Oh and Roy' I discovered what happens when you tighten the vent on a hot board and then try to loosen it on a cold board. Mmmm... Might need to carry a spanner with me next time."
blunt' posted 04 December 2007 12:15 " dont think there should be a time limit. If the Hikoi takes 6 months or 12 months so be it. Its going to take time for the board to move through the country, dependant on when someone is travellin south etc.
Us South of Aks (and even further south - Beano) will just have to be patient I'm guessing.
Personally it would be nice to have it this way for the Autumn swells but whenever, whatever will do. Perhaps nzXsports could sponsor the cellphone After all, this will do no harm and lots of good to this sites profile etc. What do you reckon Marty "
Dec 2, 2007
Kat drops the board off to Father Ted
AdamJ and Kat after leaving the board on top of the car yesterday whilst they went for a grovel were told that it doesn't have to be at least 2ft to take the board out, so AdamJ is keen to go out today despite a back injury, hopefully he and Kat can meet up with Hunty again for a surf at Murawai/Mud beach. And that AdamJ can get some of his Crystal Voyager stunning pics.
comments:
Kat 02 December 2007 10:48 "I rode it!!!! At Muriwai!!!!!! Okay, it's maybe technically more correct for me to say: "I stood up on it this one time, and it carried me into shore" FT rode it. Like it should be ridden. Saving details/pics for the blog"
comments:
Kat 02 December 2007 10:48 "I rode it!!!! At Muriwai!!!!!! Okay, it's maybe technically more correct for me to say: "I stood up on it this one time, and it carried me into shore" FT rode it. Like it should be ridden. Saving details/pics for the blog"
Dec 1, 2007
Hey peeps, the board's arrived in Aux
comments:
kat 01 December 2007 16:47 "the board's arrived in Aux, in one piece .. We surfed teeny weeny Orewa. 13 feet of fury watched from the car.I left The Beast on top of the car purely because you told me it likes a 2ft face at minimum, I wasn't going to insult it by taking it out on that 1ft grovel I had this arvo .... honest, yer honour! (Plus that thing projectiling through the hordes of grommets out there would've had me lynched by a dozen or so parents, quick smartly!)I really really really wanna have a go, we'll see what Father Theodore is planning for laters...What's the call for tomorrow morning jafas?"
(just waiting for the pics and words to be sent through from kat)
Father Ted 01 December 2007 22:38 "Damn that's a nice looking board, I've got to say its quite different to anything I've ever surfed before but there is some real craftsmanship in her too.
And its like a living thing... it breathes. I was having a tutu with the vent and I tightened it up. It wasn't closed for long and when I undid it again I swear it let out a sigh.
There's an early call for the Muriwai/Mud Beach's tomorrow. It looks small but it should be fun nonetheless and a second chance for Kat to catch a wave on her while she's still in the area."
RoyStewart 01 December 2007 23:39" That's all good, the raw linseed oil is pretty good actually as long as it is polished in carefully so that it doesn't run all over the wax, but it doesn't last long so it would be good to have the auto polish on to keep her in good shape, as we can't expect everyone to polish the board and i didn't send any linseed with it. No worries if you don't have time as wee don't want you missing any surf opportunities, and oil is ok, and does make the board faster. So its pros and cons and yesnomaybe again. . . .. . up to you basically, I'm just the garbageman"
kat 01 December 2007 16:47 "the board's arrived in Aux, in one piece .. We surfed teeny weeny Orewa. 13 feet of fury watched from the car.I left The Beast on top of the car purely because you told me it likes a 2ft face at minimum, I wasn't going to insult it by taking it out on that 1ft grovel I had this arvo .... honest, yer honour! (Plus that thing projectiling through the hordes of grommets out there would've had me lynched by a dozen or so parents, quick smartly!)I really really really wanna have a go, we'll see what Father Theodore is planning for laters...What's the call for tomorrow morning jafas?"
(just waiting for the pics and words to be sent through from kat)
Father Ted 01 December 2007 22:38 "Damn that's a nice looking board, I've got to say its quite different to anything I've ever surfed before but there is some real craftsmanship in her too.
And its like a living thing... it breathes. I was having a tutu with the vent and I tightened it up. It wasn't closed for long and when I undid it again I swear it let out a sigh.
There's an early call for the Muriwai/Mud Beach's tomorrow. It looks small but it should be fun nonetheless and a second chance for Kat to catch a wave on her while she's still in the area."
RoyStewart 01 December 2007 23:39" That's all good, the raw linseed oil is pretty good actually as long as it is polished in carefully so that it doesn't run all over the wax, but it doesn't last long so it would be good to have the auto polish on to keep her in good shape, as we can't expect everyone to polish the board and i didn't send any linseed with it. No worries if you don't have time as wee don't want you missing any surf opportunities, and oil is ok, and does make the board faster. So its pros and cons and yesnomaybe again. . . .. . up to you basically, I'm just the garbageman
"
Nov 27, 2007
:: Launch Day ::
RoyStewart 27 November 2007 17:53 "launch day was at Clyde st, we were there from 10 to 2 approx, nice clean little waves, board is very well behaved, and my surfing is very rusty ! We bought a new video camera this morning as the old one is toasted and of course the battery wasn't charged, so we plugged it in to the bus inverter and while it was charging I got the best few waves so they are not recorded, also the new tripod is super new and sticky so it's jerky panning no doubt, will post something later anyway. Still waiting for the boardbag, it should be here soon. We thought we might head over on thursday as some reports have the swell increasing but not sure if it's going up or down."
RoyStewart 29 November 2007 15:49 " Hi guys, Just got back from Clyde st, more grunt in the waves today and the cogs of the board operator meshing a tad better, got one noce wave and a bunch of closeouts. Just heard that the board bag is on the way and should be here tomorrow, so the beast is available hopefully from tomorrow lunchtime or so. . . it's over to you guys who grabs it and where it goes, I have tested the board it's all good and now will be occupied mounting a boardcam on the old 11'8" foilboard, starting a new SUP and finishing some other boards. Might be one ok wave on the video hopefully if so will post it."
RoyStewart 29 November 2007 15:49 " Hi guys, Just got back from Clyde st, more grunt in the waves today and the cogs of the board operator meshing a tad better, got one noce wave and a bunch of closeouts. Just heard that the board bag is on the way and should be here tomorrow, so the beast is available hopefully from tomorrow lunchtime or so. . . it's over to you guys who grabs it and where it goes, I have tested the board it's all good and now will be occupied mounting a boardcam on the old 11'8" foilboard, starting a new SUP and finishing some other boards. Might be one ok wave on the video hopefully if so will post it."
Nov 14, 2007
Powersurfing Hikoi, sign up here
spud: Well what we basically need is a relay of surfers from Putaruru to Dunners and back to bring this board on it's tour. We have peope all over NZ, but we need to know where, soo sign up here soo we can plan a route.
Dmand put his hand up for a spin at Mangas.
TheRealGroovn suggested "assuming we can each get bits of good video footage and photos along the way, phoam... can you do the editing to stitch it all together? Can I volunteer to write the narration? This will be a really fantastic project."
hunty offered an Auckland to far north leg.
waves "Can do Pukekohe to kaitaia. Def keen to have a crack at some clubbies on orewa bar" dumbbell offered photography and video work for the upper SI
Father Ted made some suggestions " I'd be keen for a spin while it's in the 09, I'd happily paddle it out Forestry Pt given 1/2 a chance and a reasonable swell. Otherwise a wave or two at orewa when it's there would be cool, I've always thought you could have loads of fun on a really long board there, maybe try a tandem or two. I could airbrush a logo or something on it to commemorate the pilgrimage if someone wanted to come up with a design."
kat " Roy, any chance you could bring it through to Tauranga to start its journey? If so I would love to have a go and could probably get it up to the first Aux drop-off (Pukekohe?) - unless there's a Raglan rider out there wanting a go..............??"
paul cannon " im in, cyclone season, ill have a crack at some holow rivermouths, but i want it for a month if thats okay, we got prettylong waiting periods"
13th November Roy declared: What we have decided to do is this: we are going to send the Pipeline Challenge board which is finished (just needs the fin installed ) as it's going to take a couple of thousand to get it to Hawaii and the way it's going it looks like it's going to be too late fundraising wise to get it there for this winter on Oahu. If it goes next season that gives us about 12 months or so in NZ for it to do the rounds. So the upshot is that the board will be ready next week, and if the Spud is agreeable we can send it your way Kat to start the ball rolling.
HSJ - " 1. What colour is the board, so i can co-ordinate my bikini?
2.RG We have got to do the tandom standup on the board!! (on one of our epic chch waves), that way you can steer the beast!
3. I can prob help or share petrol with demand for the chch-dunners leg. Or depending on timing, could quite possibly do the length of the country drive to bring it back.
4. The waist leash was a joke aye??"
spud 13 November 2007 17:58 " Okay so it looks like the tour is starting on Dec 1 in Tauranga, where Kat will take it to Auckland. Hopefully Jabes or somebody can take it out to the West coast, and perhaps someone to take it up to Shippies. Then I'd say it's back to Auckland, down to Rags (we need someone who lives there) From there it would be good to get it to Taranaki. maybe Nimad might be able to hook it up with somebody. From there it's to Welly via Horowhenua (C3PO?), then to Kaikoura, CHCH, Dunners, Catlins. Maybe even a paddle on lake Wakatipu? It would be wicked to see it in Greymouth/ Westport, then back to Welly, Castlepoint, Napier, Mahia, Gissy, Whakatane and finally back to Tauranga.
Dmand put his hand up for a spin at Mangas.
TheRealGroovn suggested "assuming we can each get bits of good video footage and photos along the way, phoam... can you do the editing to stitch it all together? Can I volunteer to write the narration?
This will be a really fantastic project."hunty offered an Auckland to far north leg.
waves "Can do Pukekohe to kaitaia. Def keen to have a crack at some clubbies on orewa bar
" dumbbell offered photography and video work for the upper SI Father Ted made some suggestions " I'd be keen for a spin while it's in the 09, I'd happily paddle it out Forestry Pt given 1/2 a chance and a reasonable swell. Otherwise a wave or two at orewa when it's there would be cool, I've always thought you could have loads of fun on a really long board there, maybe try a tandem or two. I could airbrush a logo or something on it to commemorate the pilgrimage if someone wanted to come up with a design."
kat " Roy, any chance you could bring it through to Tauranga to start its journey? If so I would love to have a go and could probably get it up to the first Aux drop-off (Pukekohe?) - unless there's a Raglan rider out there wanting a go..............??"
paul cannon " im in, cyclone season, ill have a crack at some holow rivermouths, but i want it for a month if thats okay, we got prettylong waiting periods"
13th November Roy declared: What we have decided to do is this: we are going to send the Pipeline Challenge board which is finished (just needs the fin installed ) as it's going to take a couple of thousand to get it to Hawaii and the way it's going it looks like it's going to be too late fundraising wise to get it there for this winter on Oahu. If it goes next season that gives us about 12 months or so in NZ for it to do the rounds. So the upshot is that the board will be ready next week, and if the Spud is agreeable we can send it your way Kat to start the ball rolling.
HSJ - " 1. What colour is the board, so i can co-ordinate my bikini?
2.RG We have got to do the tandom standup on the board!! (on one of our epic chch waves), that way you can steer the beast!
3. I can prob help or share petrol with demand for the chch-dunners leg. Or depending on timing, could quite possibly do the length of the country drive to bring it back.
4. The waist leash was a joke aye??"
spud 13 November 2007 17:58 " Okay so it looks like the tour is starting on Dec 1 in Tauranga, where Kat will take it to Auckland. Hopefully Jabes or somebody can take it out to the West coast, and perhaps someone to take it up to Shippies. Then I'd say it's back to Auckland, down to Rags (we need someone who lives there) From there it would be good to get it to Taranaki. maybe Nimad might be able to hook it up with somebody. From there it's to Welly via Horowhenua (C3PO?), then to Kaikoura, CHCH, Dunners, Catlins. Maybe even a paddle on lake Wakatipu? It would be wicked to see it in Greymouth/ Westport, then back to Welly, Castlepoint, Napier, Mahia, Gissy, Whakatane and finally back to Tauranga.
Roy is being pretty trusting in allowing this to happen, so maybe we should arrange for insurance cover in case something bad happens to the board. We need the itinerary locked down with people we can trust to look after the board. We all need to agree where it's going to be stored and how it's going to be transported so that it doesn't get trashed.
I reckon photos at every step of the way would be good. Plus I like the Pink wettie idea. Perhaps someone could get hold of a pink rashie that could follow the board around."
About the Olo board
Father Ted: "It's interesting how you get a perception of things,
I've always assumed those boards are really heavy, even though I know they're hollow etc... they've just always looked heavy to me. It's not untill you see Roy working away on it that you realise that they don't seem heavy at all considering their length."
I've always assumed those boards are really heavy, even though I know they're hollow etc... they've just always looked heavy to me. It's not untill you see Roy working away on it that you realise that they don't seem heavy at all considering their length."
A question too, A while back Roy you advised someone not to hang 10 on it.. is that becauuse you don't rate noseriding or because the board would cartwheel? I just thought that with 13' of board in the water it might be enough to hold true
Roy Stewart: "Hi Ted, some are heavy, some not so heavy, this one is 28 pounds, my 17 footer is 65 or so.
The deal with noseriding this particular design is that you can do in some situations but it's a stalling move, the board isn't really dsigned for it, and if you try and ride it as if it is a noserdier its going to sulk in a big way, and you won't get the best out of it.
The deal is to let the board guide you, it shows you how to ride it.. . preconceived ideas are not very helpful, which is why complete beginners do well on the design. Basically the board is a tail rider, park yourself in the middle somewhere and go.
Going down the line don't trim straight like you would with a mal, she will sulk again, just hang high and let the nose and outside rail drop. .. . there is so much curve in the planshape that when the tail rail is working then the rest of the board is hanging out and down. it's impossible to spin the board out and it will hold in to the steepest walls, as well as being able to turn down the face anytime (never gets locked in ) so don't be shy to squeeze the board high up the face and then swoop back down whenever.
I will let you into a secret of the design, which I have kept to myself for years, partly because it can be hard to explain: The secret is that when the board is high on the wall and the outside rail and nore are dropped, then this angle of trim presents the fin partially horizontally, and it then acts as a big hydrofoil wing. . . (this doesn't happen with boards which trim level and flat).The 'wing' effect of the fin is due to the angle at which the rail presents the fin, and it is one of the main reasons why the fin is so big. . .. the fin doesn't have to be that big to keep the tail from spinning out. . most board designers think that with such a narrow tail only a small fin is needed, but they miss the point that the fin is the main power in the board, the rails are just used to guide the fin and present it where it is needed. . . that's why they are so soft, they need to be able to release and hold without catchiness, so that precise control over the fin angle hapens instinctively.
Don't tell anyone, let them keep using tiny single fins !
The fin is ten inches long and 13 high, it's got loads of power and lift, a typical 10 inch Greenough flex fin just doesn't have enough grunt in comparison.
Those who grind the tip into the sand will be *$#@**& !!
A lid is not required but for rolling under on big days a lid is a good idea, as the strongest grip on the board happens when the arms are not way extended above the head but more bent, this brings the cranium closer to the deck of the board, and sometimes a slight tap on the head can occur if the lip comes down really hard, for the ultimate roll under grip #1 the head is pressed against the deck of the board and the hands pull the rails down hard, while the body hangs down as a sea anchor. . . the ultimate grip #2 isn't highly recommended, and includes the above plus wrapping the legs around the board. . . this method attaches the rider to the board more securely, but the catch is that without the body acting as a sea anchor the board will get dragged beachwards, the tail will dig in, and board and rider will cartwheel beachwards for a bit. .. . (not as fun as it sounds)
If the waves aren't that big and one wants to lose the minimum distance then grab the rails and extend the arms up as far as possible while pushing the body straight down, not quite as strong on the grip front but the whole shebang stays firmly put as long as the hand rail connection is up to it .
Hoping that helps"
RoyStewart 28 November 2007 22:19 " What we have done is 400 grit all over, with 600 in the tail area, 600 is supposed to be faster over 20 knots or so, so the tail gets a 600 wipe just in case. The sanding is all fore and aft for speed. Really a good sand to 1200 plus some silicone based car polish was what I was planning, just to keep the board really watertight and uv resistant ( epoxy isn't 100% watertight by itself), but went for the basic 400 instead as the swell was up. Basically, go for it just don't wear all the resin away"
How the Hikoi began
After Spud's original request to ride one of Roy Stewart's boards, and Roy's offer to make a 12 footer from scratch.
Beano expressed (after some rarking) his impatience to just see someone on the BB ride one of his boards in bigger waves. Discussion then leaned towards the use of the 13 footer destined for Hawaii for a Hikoi/tour around New Zealand where regular posters on the surfco bulletin board (BB) would arrange to meet, transport and ride the 13' board and document its journeys.
surfscab likened the journey to a Kiwi version of the legendary surf film 'Single Fin Yellow' and offered to support the boards travels to Dunedin.
dumbell suggested " How about we suss out a powersurfing circuit tour, and all chip in to freight this puppy around. Wellington, Chch, and Dunners. "
TheRealGroovn suggested "I think we oughta look beyond the notion of freighting. Nope, just sending the board place to place wouldn't do. Let's relay it person-to-person. I hereby put my hand up, if it gets to Welly, I'll come bring it across on the ferry and drive it in for the CHCH leg of the tour."
HSJ offered to transport the board in the Christchurch to Dunedin leg of the journey
Blunt' put his hand up to ride the wood in Wellington, Jabes at Bethalls and swellseeker at the top of the planet maybe meeting up with the Dunedin crew in the Catlins. waves was keen to ride too and deliver up to hunty in Kaitaia. Others who were keen to join the journey were marko sharko III, hunty and oldscool.
... and so the journey was born ...
Nov 11, 2007
"The Spud Preliminary Powersurfing Challenge"
Posted on BB by Spud:
Greetings people. You are all no doubt aware of brother Roy's challenge to them Yanks in Hawaii to try out one of his boards at Pipeline.
Greetings people. You are all no doubt aware of brother Roy's challenge to them Yanks in Hawaii to try out one of his boards at Pipeline.
Well for a number of reasons it doesn't seem to have happpened yet. I'm thinking that they're basically chicken. Anyway, I have decided to take it upon myself to callenge Roy to send me down one of his boards and get me to try it out at my local. Now I'm not saying that my local is as heavy as the North Shore, but it has it's moments. I can think of just the wave to test one of Roy's boards actually.
so what do you say felluhs?
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